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  A couple questions for atheists on Suffering

  by little_Socrates in

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  who told you that the world should be free from suffering?.

  do you find any value in suffering?.

  do you think it is possible to experience all the beauty and goodness and pleasure the world offers without also experiencing the bad?

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  never a jw

  Regarding the OP question.

  Suffering, deep suffering, is to know that a large percentage (40 to 50% or something like that) of the U.S. population in the XXI century still believe in the literal interpretation of the creation account. My 29 year old nephew just wrote in an email : "this complex eco system we live in and the awesome universe our planet is in, it just does not seem logical to have come from evolution"

  What's going on? It's so painful. I need words of consolation. I need someone to tell me that this superstitious age is going to end soon. I need help.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Crime Map

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  crimes committed by jehovahs witnesseshttp://aawa.co/jw-crime-map/.

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  Not good. The average crime outside of JW's is not represented, so there's no way to compare. Considering that the JW's are about 8 million people, the number of crimes put on the board looks quite small (I am sure less than 1%), therefore the argument really backfires. Also, something troublesome is that the creator of the map decided to criminalize the refusal of blood. As much as I dislike that policy, I have to consider that most judicial systems in the world don't call it a crime, therefore it's not a crime.

  AAWA, please make a better effort not to do what the very people you criticize do.
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  Top Scientist descent from Creationism

  by Coded Logic in

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  http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309064066&page=25.

  http://www.nas.edu/evolution/intelligentdesign.html.

  http://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-board-resolution-intelligent-design-theory.

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  all those scientists are under the control of the wicked one, why should I listen to anything they have to say.
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  Asshole Atheism – Not for me, now or ever.

  by donny in

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  to start off with let me clarify that by asshole atheism i am not referring to strong atheism or any other type of upfront atheism.

  what i am referring to is the belligerent, hateful atheism that smacks of trolls and other types who want to derail conversation or comments at any cost..

  i enjoy hearing comments from both sides of the subjects of theism, nationalism or politics, especially from those who have intense opinions.

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  never a jw

  Donny,

  Somehow I find myself agreeing with you, but I would also agree if you said asshole theism, or asshole agnosticism, or asshole pantheism, or asshole deism, or asshole anything. I think you could have named you topic a little better and would have made you look less like the very people you are railing against
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  Asshole Atheism – Not for me, now or ever.

  by donny in

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  2. beliefs

  to start off with let me clarify that by asshole atheism i am not referring to strong atheism or any other type of upfront atheism.

  what i am referring to is the belligerent, hateful atheism that smacks of trolls and other types who want to derail conversation or comments at any cost..

  i enjoy hearing comments from both sides of the subjects of theism, nationalism or politics, especially from those who have intense opinions.

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  Richard,

  I find it interesting when people use dishonesty, error or bias in "scientific" circles as an opportunity to make general statements about science. Almost no field of science today is free from debate, disagreement, error, bias, personal interest, money interest, and a myriad of circumstances that make scientific progress not a straightforward, 100 % efficient and effective process, but you can bet your behind, overall is always improving. Nobody could make a similar case for religion, because its driving force is faith, which is confidence in something that can not be tested. The word improvement for religion does not apply. You can use the word change, but improvement, certainly not.
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  Asshole Atheism – Not for me, now or ever.

  by donny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to start off with let me clarify that by asshole atheism i am not referring to strong atheism or any other type of upfront atheism.

  what i am referring to is the belligerent, hateful atheism that smacks of trolls and other types who want to derail conversation or comments at any cost..

  i enjoy hearing comments from both sides of the subjects of theism, nationalism or politics, especially from those who have intense opinions.

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  Richard, are you a Republican, or friendly to Republican issues? Nothing wrong with political affiliations. I just wonder if your view of the world is shaped by party affiliation.
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  May KM Highlight 1/Cong baptized

  by Gayle in

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  at 2014 conventions (regional?

  ) 14,039 baptized.

  outstanding for 13,871 congs!

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  never a jw

  Inside the KH wrote,

  "Sociologists and national surveys conclude that the WT counts are very conservative and therefor credible"

  The credibility that I question even more is yours

  What surveys, what sociologists?
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  The Great Leak: BOEs from 1935 to 2015

  by hildebrando in

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  409 pages of boes which have leaked from a london informant!

  these include from 1935 to 2015!.

  http://hildeydesa.blogspot.mx/2015/03/the-great-leak-archivo-de-cartas-de.html.

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  Everything that I saw is in English and altogether is less than 1,000 pages, so I doubt is more comprehensive than Atlantis' files. It's a bit of a disappointment because the Spanish speakers overall are still in the dark regarding their beloved mother organization.
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  jw.org cart days numbered?

  by jookbeard in

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  reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

  i bet its very minimal.

  naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

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  the cart numbers are good for the WT. It's easy preaching that makes people more likely to increase their hours, which allows WT to claim growth when they report annual preaching hours. The benefit in terms of new converts may be null, but the higher preaching hours will keep the delusion going.
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  IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  important news:.

  here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

  the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

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  never a jw

  3 years ago what kept me coming to this site was the discussion regarding 1914 and the long list of evidence that debunked the WT chronology. Soon Leolaia's excellent comments attracted my attention too. Then, after a waning of these type of posts, I started losing interest. But thanks to Barbara and many others, the spark is back. Keep the bad news (good news for us) coming. Thank you